2 October 2026 · 103 min

Former Google Scientist: The Transition to the AI Economy Will be PAINFUL! - What We Can Expect

With Thore Graepel · Hosted by Julian Issa

Is "AI is dangerous" a warning, or the world's best marketing line?

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Is "AI is dangerous" a warning, or the world's best marketing line?

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On this episode of Beyond Tomorrow, I sit down with Thore Graepel, co-creator of AlphaGo and former researcher at Google DeepMind. I asked him straight up how close we are to superintelligence, and his answer surprised me: there won't be a single moment we can point to, and he argues human organizations like companies already count as a form of superintelligence. We get into why he thinks "AI will destroy humanity" is the biggest myth in the field, the near-term risks he does take seriously, and why I pushed him on the incentives behind the AI safety messaging coming from the labs.