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They agree you can’t control superintelligence. So why do they disagree about whether to build it?
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They agree you can’t control superintelligence. So why do they disagree about whether to build it?
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Two people with opposite P(doom) numbers go head to head. Roman Yampolskiy puts his close to 100%, and Mike Israetel puts his near zero. The host reads out a series of big statements, and the two take them apart one at a time. Mike argues that a smarter-than-human system will be a better cooperator than we are: it will want to study us and keep us around, and it will out-moralize us. Roman argues that nobody knows how to encode that, that a superintelligence won’t need us, and that you can’t control something far smarter than you.
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